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post #11 of 57 (permalink) Old 03-12-2012, 12:44 AM
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Looks like you've done your homework. Great write up!!!




Most 4-wheeler problems are caused by a loose nut connecting the handlebars and the seat!!

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Thanks, Helmut. And now I have "Sticky Stardom"...

I'd like to thank the Academy...

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Superwinch LT2000
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SuperATV disc brakes w/caliper flip
Kolpin front and rear trail boxes w/rack & fuel packs

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PRM full skid plates and side bars

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Nice write up on your ride melsman!

It's to bad you have to replace the Hondamatic on these things if something major goes wrong, instead of being able to fix one.

One thing I've found with these small engines that use the same oil for everything is how much metallic particles get past the oil filter. It's mostly clutch material I've found, and it's made me change the oil that much more often because of that.
I found that a magnetic drain plug wasn't enough to catch all this material from floating round and round in our engines. What I did find was that a magnetic ring that sticks to the back of your oil filter does a really good job of getting the particles out of the recirculating oil.
I change my bikes oil at around 1000 miles, or less if in allot of dirty riding conditions, and the ring is covered with tiny metal clutch particles, and probably from other places also. I think if available an oil filter magnet would be a great thing for all of us on our atv's to help with long term reliability, especially with those expensive Hondamatic tranny's. I found one on ProCycle.com for my motorcycle, and maybe it would fit our atv filters also, or a search to find one that would be made to fit our atv's.

I'm doing my oil change on the bike here in a week or so, and I'll share a pic of how much sludge, and metal parts are floating around in our engine's. It sure shows on how simple maintenance, and routine oil changes goes a long ways on our machines longevity.

EDIT, this oil ring appears to fit your machine by the description.
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What an excellent write up! very informative for all of the Electric shift nay-sayers!
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@Stu5969 - As you mention, changing the oil frequently is a must. The good news is that the Hondamatic's source of oil is taken immediately after running through the filter. So, a good filter should catch the bad stuff before it gets pumped into the tranny. Of course, if the filter gets plugged and the bypass goes active, all bets are off...

Thanks for mentioning it. I've added the point to my original post.

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2005 Rancher 400FA AT
Superwinch LT2000
24" Bearclaws
SuperATV disc brakes w/caliper flip
Kolpin front and rear trail boxes w/rack & fuel packs

2005 TRX400EX
13T front sprocket; EZ Pull Clutch
PRM full skid plates and side bars

2003 TRX250EX
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Great write up
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Awesome info! I LOVED the 400AT I had for a short while. It was an excellent all-around bike. The HondaMatic was my favorite part.

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Excellent write up! Plus ya said what I've been trying to tell people for years bout the Hondamatics..

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this write up is why i got my rancher

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The problems on these atvs that you listed is why I got rid of my 2 Rancher 400 at. I changed the oil regularly, used Honda oil that they recomended had still had to change out a hondamatic in one and a clutch weights in the other. I run stock tires and don't mud just trail ride. If you enjoy repairing you atv more than riding it buy this model. By the way I have a service manual I'll sell you and some speciality tools, you will need them. I do agree when the atv are running correctly it is a great riding atv, loved mine then however the repair bill why run you broke.
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