2013 Honda EFI es won’t start!! - Honda ATV Forum
Honda Rancher Discuss all models of the Honda Rancher 350/400/420

 3Likes
  • 1 Post By retro
  • 1 Post By mrbb
  • 1 Post By mrbb
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 04-09-2019, 10:05 PM Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Jordan Alfonso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 1
2013 Honda EFI es won’t start!!

I have a 2013 rancher efi, recently it sat up for a long time, I drained most of the fuel put fresh fuel and ran about 1/2 tank through it before it started dying while riding and would run fine until given a lot of throttle at once. One day it died on me a few times and I had to tow it back to my house, my immediate though was fuel pump, so I pulled the line off and was getting fuel, then changed the injector Thinking maybe that was the issue, still not it. So I went back to the fuel pump and replaced it, still not the issue, it has spark and fuel but will not run, the bike only has 27 hours and is like brand new, all it does is spin over, no FI lights or any other lights flashing PLEASE HELP
Jordan Alfonso is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 7 (permalink) Old 04-10-2019, 12:59 AM
Super Moderator
Supporting Member
 
retro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Ojibwe Gichigami
Posts: 5,726
Liked: 3139 times
Was the filter changed along with the fuel pump? Are all of those parts that you put on it genuine OEM Honda parts? If the answer is no to any of the above, correct those before continuing, else you're wasting your time.

Next up, check the fuel pump relay. The service manual shows ya how (scroll down & click the link):
https://www.hondaatvforums.net/forum...downloads.html

Then remove the throttle body and clean it good, inside and out. Don't disturb stuff... just clean the carbon and junk out if any is found. Clean your air filter too. If you aren't experienced in this area, I advise that you pay someone else to do this work.

The fuel pressure must be checked at that point. More'n likely, only a few Honda shops will be able to check pressure for ya. It requires some special fittings for the gauge. Read the manual... you may have to re-initialize the TPS once its been disturbed as well.

Rancher fuel pumps (the entire fuel system is a joke) are wimpy, chintzy turds... don't ever let them sit with fuel in them more than 30 days old. And don't ever put any ethanol laced gas in it for any reason.
GirlsRideToo likes this.


retro is offline  
post #3 of 7 (permalink) Old 06-18-2019, 10:22 AM
Junior Member
 
Tooomuch7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 25
Liked: 4 times
I have a question about the 2013 420 Rancher,if not using the machine for a period of time,should you let the fuel pump run out of gas,and leave it empty,I heard you could hurt the pump doing that,what’s the best thing to do? I run non ethanol fuel in it.
Tooomuch7 is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 7 (permalink) Old 06-18-2019, 11:50 AM
Senior Member
 
mrbb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: NE Pa
Posts: 7,985
Liked: 2055 times
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tooomuch7 View Post
I have a question about the 2013 420 Rancher,if not using the machine for a period of time,should you let the fuel pump run out of gas,and leave it empty,I heard you could hurt the pump doing that,whatís the best thing to do? I run non ethanol fuel in it.
to get the most views and reply's, you should dtart your own tread asking this stuff!

BUT for now I will take a stab at things
first off HOW long will atv sit
weeks, months, yrs?
as it maters!
so need to tell us more on this side of things to get better answers!

if weeks, I would run tank LOW< and then re fill with non ethanol fuel

if months, I would again run current tank almost to empty, closer the better!

and then re fill tank with NON ethanol fuel and TREAT the fuel with a stabilizer, so it doesn't go bad!

NEXT, if your a yr or longer, I would do the treated non ethanol fuel deal
only before running atv again I would drain the tank, and re do with new non ethanol fuel, and a new oil and filter change
along with a few other things I would do for longer term storage, so things don't go bad sitting still

again a post about HOW to store atv for longer sits, would be your best bet to get more eye's and opinions on how to do so best! !
mrbb is offline  
post #5 of 7 (permalink) Old 06-18-2019, 01:52 PM
Junior Member
 
Tooomuch7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 25
Liked: 4 times
I was just continuing a thread about what someone said about the 420s having weak fuel systems,so I didn’t think I needed a new thread.All I asked if you should run the electric fuel pump empty or not when the machine sits for long periods.Sometimes my 420 will sit for two months at a time .Other times a couple weeks.
Tooomuch7 is online now  
post #6 of 7 (permalink) Old 06-18-2019, 03:21 PM
Senior Member
 
mrbb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: NE Pa
Posts: 7,985
Liked: 2055 times
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tooomuch7 View Post
I was just continuing a thread about what someone said about the 420s having weak fuel systems,so I didnít think I needed a new thread.All I asked if you should run the electric fuel pump empty or not when the machine sits for long periods.Sometimes my 420 will sit for two months at a time .Other times a couple weeks.
yes exactly, but your main question seems to be about asking HOW TO< store your atv for sitting periods of time<
the OP of THIS Tread was asking for help due to his atv not running
your question belongs in its own tread, as your getting off topic of the OP here!

and I also answered your questions here too
but in the future, its best to start a tread when your asking about YOUR question and not answering to the op's tread question!
misterclean59 likes this.
mrbb is offline  
post #7 of 7 (permalink) Old 06-18-2019, 03:25 PM
Senior Member
 
mrbb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: NE Pa
Posts: 7,985
Liked: 2055 times
to the OP< sorry for getting off your topic

YOU might still have bad fuel in your tank, since you never drained it all out, if the old fuel had water in it, or too much of an additive, or just OLD fuel
draining half or so and adding new, can just make for a full tank of weak bad fuel

so, to rule out the fuel, you need to drain the whole tank, or as close to empty as you can, and then try things

modern fuel is poor quality,at best when new,
so any that sits can go bad a LOT faster than many think, and adding too much of stabilizer or treatment, can make it even worse, or ruin it all together!

so, need to start with all new fuel, and then trouble shoot after that if it doesn;t solve the issue for you!
misterclean59 likes this.
mrbb is offline  
Reply

  Lower Navigation
Go Back   Honda ATV Forum > Honda Model Specific Discussions > Honda Rancher

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Honda ATV Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in













Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2013 Honda rancher 420fm electrical problem alaskanpower Honda Rancher 24 10-22-2018 02:07 PM
Honda Rancher Recoil Start Install - Questions huntmafia Honda Rancher 7 02-08-2018 05:11 PM
Honda 350 Priming to Start Outlaw Repair & Maintenance 10 02-01-2018 08:21 AM
94 Honda Fourtrax 300 Electric start issues b14smith Honda FourTrax 1 03-15-2017 12:54 PM
'16 Honda Rancher wont start ddooley1023 Repair & Maintenance 6 04-27-2016 05:14 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome