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post #21 of 24 (permalink) Old 01-01-2019, 11:12 PM
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i can only answer,, a small cut in the tire, it should not make any difference, steel belted tires, a different thing. i have to go back to the beginning of the thread. so many here, know more than me. i'll do the best i can.
i did go through the thread again. the post 12/29/18 at 4:59 pm, speaks volumes to me. i think ya should listen. a loose axle nut?
i cant tell you about that gap. your mechanic should, an those here will.

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The cut or crack in the tire is not a big deal if it is not cut deep enough to sever the 1st nylon ply. I'd run it and forget about it if its just a superficial cut.

That axle looks perfectly normal too. The gap between the shoulder machined into the axle hub and the axle housing tube is intended to be there. It allows a small area for string or wire to wrap on the axle without them getting into the seal and ruining it... which happens often on farms where bailing twine and fence wire are run over and get wrapped by the tire, onto the axle.

EDIT: As you've guessed by now... the design of that axle hub seal (the integrated brass ring) provides a durable bumper stop for wire, string and vines to rub against while holding them a safe distance away from the fragile rubber seal lip. It works great until the amount of wraps exceed the capacity... but thats probably useless info... nevermind my coffee'd up rants.
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The cut or crack in the tire is not a big deal if it is not cut deep enough to sever the 1st nylon ply. I'd run it and forget about it if its just a superficial cut.

That axle looks perfectly normal too. The gap between the shoulder machined into the axle hub and the axle housing tube is intended to be there. It allows a small area for string or wire to wrap on the axle without them getting into the seal and ruining it... which happens often on farms where bailing twine and fence wire are run over and get wrapped by the tire, onto the axle.
Thanks so much for explaining this to me. I can stop worrying now.... LOL

@LedFTed Your comments were very helpful, too, and much appreciated! I like what you said about not being a mechanic who does bad work. I will give my mechanic a call and tell him the problem and what I've done. I would just take it back to him but he stays so busy it might take him weeks to get to it. So, for now, I will put it back together with new parts and swap the tires as suggested by @SamUK and see what happens.

I apologized to my bike today and told him I didn't really mean I was going to list him on Craig's List. To make up for it I ordered new plastics for him last night. He and I will both feel a lot better if he's not the ugliest kid of the block. He might turn out to be downright pretty before it's over. He deserves all this and more for letting me wrench on him.
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The cut or crack in the tire is not a big deal if it is not cut deep enough to sever the 1st nylon ply. I'd run it and forget about it if its just a superficial cut.

That axle looks perfectly normal too. The gap between the shoulder machined into the axle hub and the axle housing tube is intended to be there. It allows a small area for string or wire to wrap on the axle without them getting into the seal and ruining it... which happens often on farms where bailing twine and fence wire are run over and get wrapped by the tire, onto the axle.
Thanks so much for explaining this to me. I can stop worrying now.... LOL

@LedFTed Your comments were very helpful, too, and much appreciated! I like what you said about not being a mechanic who does bad work. I will give my mechanic a call and tell him the problem and what I've done. I would just take it back to him but he stays so busy it might take him weeks to get to it. So, for now, I will put it back together with new parts and swap the tires as suggested by @SamUK He and I will both feel a lot better if he's not the ugliest kid of the block. He might turn out to be downright pretty before it's over. He deserves all this and more for letting me wrench on him.
Funny,, most my machines are all girls, except henry, a 76 chevy truck. i best leave off, listing names. my last PC, computer, was named, Betsy Lucy Wanker, she give me a hard time. learning XP, some time i would get into the registry, an she would shut down. eventually i pushed the right buttons, an would be forgiven. LOLS plus
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"what a good giff, the good lord gee us,not to see ourselves,as others see us"
hard to talk to morons. even more so, when related..
"ya should get 3 people ta smile or laugh every day" all will feel better
"sometimes, when drinking 5 or 6 bud's, nipping JB, Jim Beam, cinnamon in between, i start thinking sideways,,i have too though, ta match the way i walk" ed
"those that dont study history, are doomed to repeat it"
"I HOPE i aint wrote nutting else stupid" "funniest comedy dont need curse words" "teach how to think, not what to" ed
"Genius can be measured,not stupid" Albert Einstein
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