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What does the grease fitting do? Iíll probably be able to answer my own question when I get it taken apart!

And Goober, yeah itís hard to explain!! Partzilla have rebuild kits for the wheel cylinders?
Thanks for the help! Iíll get it taken apart next week and let ya know.
once apart, you put a bolt in one hole where the cross over line was, use the grease fitting in the smaller hole on the cylinder, then use the grease gun to use pressure to pop the piston out of the bore.
Why not use some low pressure air?
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What does the grease fitting do? Iíll probably be able to answer my own question when I get it taken apart!

And Goober, yeah itís hard to explain!! Partzilla have rebuild kits for the wheel cylinders?
Thanks for the help! Iíll get it taken apart next week and let ya know.
once apart, you put a bolt in one hole where the cross over line was, use the grease fitting in the smaller hole on the cylinder, then use the grease gun to use pressure to pop the piston out of the bore.
Why not use some low pressure air?
because it wont budge that seized piston inside the wheel cylinder !!!. if they are stuck in there good ?, no amount of air is going to move them !..lol. and iffffffffff it did ?, you run two things, one: it go flying into lala land, and you may never see it again ?, two : you run the risk of blowing the seal out when you do that with air !!. trust me on what I am saying here !!!..do it with grease, and it will ease out very slowly, and you will be fine. DO NOT USE AIR..OF ANY SORT !!!!!!.
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The grease trick worked great on my ‘88 350D. Never would have believed if I had not done it. One of them was seized pretty bad and I didn’t think it was going to work but after a few pumps with the grease gun it popped right out. Took a 10mm zerk (aka alimite) on mine.
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Well, I took 1 apart. Used the grease gun method, worked great. Smoothly pushed it out. I did not see any sign of corrosion in there. Put it all back together and I can use pliers to pull the piston in and out. I did not try pliers before. The rubber seals all look good, no tears, no dryrot.

Sound about right? I'm going to do all the rest and see what happens. A rebuild kit for 1 cylinder is $30.00. I'm leery of spending money on the drum brakes when I can spend $230 and convert them to disc and then they will basically last forever. This 4-wheeler will see very light use.
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Well, I took 1 apart. Used the grease gun method, worked great. Smoothly pushed it out. I did not see any sign of corrosion in there. Put it all back together and I can use pliers to pull the piston in and out. I did not try pliers before. The rubber seals all look good, no tears, no dryrot.

Sound about right? I'm going to do all the rest and see what happens. A rebuild kit for 1 cylinder is $30.00. I'm leery of spending money on the drum brakes when I can spend $230 and convert them to disc and then they will basically last forever. This 4-wheeler will see very light use.
if you put disk brakes on the front ?, you have to use 12 inch rims, as 11 inch rims won't clear the brake calipers.
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I gather your talking about something like this vehicle master cylinder adjustable push rod ? No there is no adjustment built into any of them, @ least not that I'm aware of .... And i don't know of anyway to easily cheat it.
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Well thank you for that info Shadetree! My rims are original. I’ll assume they are too small? I’m not home to check. If that’s the case I don’t have a problem having to fix my drum brakes. My only option!!!
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Well thank you for that info Shadetree! My rims are original. Iíll assume they are too small? Iím not home to check. If thatís the case I donít have a problem having to fix my drum brakes. My only option!!!
your welcome :-). if your rims are oem factory ?, then yeah..they are 11 inch rims, you will need 12 inch rims to put disk brake kit on it :-).

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Yep @rustynut2 that's exactly what i was talking about! ..... Now i don't know why guys do do this mod to an ome master cylinder.... Instead .... I'd OP for fixing it correctly ... Here's a pic gives an idea of they drill and tap this area (where the ink pen tip is) add an adjust screw with a jam nut .... I've seen this mod ONLY twice.... The only reason I've ever gotten for this mod is.. The master cylinder bleeds off pressure, when fully released , i guess some people are cheep... Rather than fixing it correctly.

Edit: yes all three of mine have oem masters cylinders
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Yep @rustynut2 that's exactly what i was talking about! ..... Now i don't know why guys do do this mod to an ome master cylinder.... Instead .... I'd OP for fixing it correctly ... Here's a pic gives an idea of they drill and tap this area (where the ink pen tip is) add an adjust screw with a jam nut .... I've seen this mod ONLY twice.... The only reason I've ever gotten for this mod is.. The master cylinder bleeds off pressure, when fully released , i guess some people are cheep... Rather than fixing it correctly.

Edit: yes all three of mine have oem masters cylinders
why would folks do this ?. i've always fixed them the correct way, rebuild them ?, or clean them ?. i've yet to this day..not had one single oem master cylinder not work for me.

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