2018 Kodiak 450 vs 2018 Honda Rancher
Howdy Honda friends,
I've been around a while, and ya'll know I love my 2016 Honda Rancher. I'm a numbers guy, so today I'm posting that I think Yamaha's new Kodiak 450 gives Honda some serious competition. Here's why, by the numbers:
(As I'm a fan of EPS, I'll compare similarly equipped machines, with Power Steering, 4x4, and independent suspension at all four corners.)
Kodiak 450 EPS (green with black steel wheels) = $6899
Rancher DCT IRS EPS (yellow w/ black steel wheels) = $8099
Kodiak = 421cc, 10.0:1 compression, 84.5mm x 75mm bore & stroke, 34mm throttle body, FUEL INJECTION
Rancher = 420cc, 9.9:1 compression, 86.5mm x 71.5mm bore & stroke, 33mm throttle body, FUEL INJECTION
Kodiak = Ultramatic belt-drive with High, Low, Neutral, Reverse, Park (this is a proven transmission, and probably the best design in the belt-drive industry, virtually no belt wear)
Rancher = DCT automatic (gear-on-gear), electric manual shift or "auto" mode, 5 forward speeds, Neutral, and Reverse (also proven, offers true gear selection)
Kodiak = button-activated 4-wheel-drive with open front diff
Rancher = lever-activated 4-wheel-drive with open front diff
Kodiak = 25" tires on 12" wheels
Rancher = 24" tires on 12" front and 11" rear wheels
Kodiak = hydraulic disc front, sealed wet brake rear (zero maintenance, highly praised)
Rancher = hydraulic disc front and rear
Both have IRS and comparable preload adjustment.
Kodiak = 6.7" front, 7.4" rear
Rancher = 7.3" front, 8.5" rear
Kodiak = 9.6"
Rancher = 9.2"
Both have comparable, steel racks front and rear.
Kodiak = 88 lbs front, 176 lbs rear
Rancher = 66 lbs front, 133 lbs rear
Kodiak = 1322 lbs
Rancher = 848 lbs
Kodiak = 650 lbs
Rancher = 686 lbs
Kodiak = 10.2 ft
Rancher = 11.5 ft
Kodiak = 3.7 gallons
Rancher = 3.9 gallons
Kodiak = dual front headlights WITH THIRD HANDLEBAR-MOUNTED LIGHT
Rancher = dual front headlights (have to get Foreman or Rubicon for handlebar-mounted light)
Accessory 12V Power Port:
Kodiak = standard equipment
Rancher = not available (have to get Foreman or Rubicon for accessory power outlet)
On-board Storage: (roughly equivalent space)
Kodiak = under the seat
Rancher = behind tail lamp
Both look awesome, looks are subjective, you decide.
1. Yamaha doesn't give up anything to Honda in reliability, and the Kodiak is based on the proven Grizzly 450, but figure in the past 3 years of updates and improvements.
2. It looks to me like there is a real argument for more value in the new 2018 Kodiak.
3. I LOVE my Rancher, but Yamaha is making a very good argument for itself. I bought my 2016 Rancher in December of 2015. Had this new Kodiak been available at the time, the outcome might have been different.
Holy moly!! I never realised how large the turning radio is was, got my 300 down to 8'6" ish with a little tinkering and tow out :-D
I should run 'rings' around my bosses 420 <-- pun intended lol.
That's a good review creed, it seems to me the kodiak is actually (on paper) the better machine, certainly has more plus factors than the Honda. Downside for me is the belt drive, that being said, if it was used for what it was designed for I can't see it posing any issues.
Think I'm right in saying that it's deep water/mud and lack of maintenance that kills belts?
Yamaha has a very reliable belt drive, the biggest factor people leave out is replacing the grease inside the primary clutch.
I like that Yamaha has a centrifugal clutch given really good engine braking, at the end of the day though, I would still take a Honda over Yamaha any day.
I used to have a Kodiak 450 before I sold it and bought my Rancher. In my opinion, as far a belt drive machines go, Yamaha has the best design. Switching from the belt drive to the DCT transmission took a little getting used to, and I wish my Honda had the front diff-lock that the Yamaha had. Other then that, the Honda is the better machine and will hopefully last a very long time.
I was really disappointed with Yamaha's new Kodiak, I think the old Kodiak/Grizzly 450 was a better machine, aside from the lack of EFI. While now the Kodiak gives the Rancher a run for it's money, the old Kodiak was a hands down winner...
My old Kodiak had 4x4, and then 4x4 with the diff lock, which was really good if you didn't feel like doing anything except going straight. Lol
Yeah, I understand how they work, a locker at the flick of a switch would be ideal I must admit. My 300 works a treat now, I shimmed it up a touch, great in the mud holes.
My bosses 420 works really well though for a stock diff, it's either broken or one that Honda got right haha
The only way to get around that is to run a higher ratio front diff, then you have to learn to accelerate as you turn, more you accelerate faster it pulls you around. Still hard to hold on full lock though.
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