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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 07-27-2017, 05:43 PM Thread Starter
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Electric shift help

Okay so I've got a 2013 Honda 420 electric shift. 4500 kilometres. This winter it started acting up. Lights would dim when winching. Was shifting very hard. Now it's all messed up. It will sometimes throw code 22 on the gear indicator. Reverse works fine but hardly goes into other gears and when it does it doesn't work for long. Battery? Shift motor? Angle sensor? Computer? You can hear the shift motor trying really hard. Also manual shifter doesn't work.
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Hmm have you checked the voltage in the battery? Code 22 could mean either the angle sensor, or, but more than likely the shift motor itself is stuck, and you say it wont shift manually? id pull the shift motor, check to see nothings stuck and all good, IF its not the battery causing you issues im guessing its deffo the shift motor, some of the more knowledgeable guys will be along shortly and be able to do a better explanation than me....

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More often than not you won't need to buy any parts to keep your bike working well. But your battery is questionable at this point, so it may be time to have it load tested and replace it if it isn't fit anymore. Many auto parts/retail battery stores will test it for you free. You didn't mention whether you have any aftermarket lighting or other possible electric power hogs wired up, so I assume your bike is stock except for the winch?

Beyond that minor bump there is preventive maintenance to keep up with. Start by unplugging and checking every plug in the harness to verify that you have clean, dry, corrosion free connections. Put some Dielectric grease in each when you plug them back together so they'll remain clean and watertight. Clean the battery terminals and cable ends along with the starter & ground cables going to the motor and frame. Take the shift motor out and clean out the old grease in there too. Inspect the reduction gears for chips or cracks etc. and reinstall with some good quality low-temp rated grease coating the parts.

It also may be time to take your winch apart and clean out the old grease in the sungear sets and housing. Regrease those parts with a quality low-temp rated grease during reassembly. The winch will consume less power and last longer if it is properly maintained, same needs as any other components on your bike.

If your shifting problems still exist after you get through changing the oil & filter & fluids and all the other normal maintenance items discussed here and in your owners manual, come on back and talk about it some more with us before spending money on parts you may not need... and won't fix the bike.

You can find a copy of the service manual for your Rancher HERE. You'll need to refer to it often to repair and properly maintain your bike.

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You probably need to check your voltage for some of your issues, but all irrelevant of the fact you can't manually shift it. The shifter can get debris in it and cause it to not shift. Assuming the worst, a part has failed internally and is blocking your shifter from working properly.

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brushes in shift motor are chipped pretty bad.
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Like Brian said, the shift motor what you can do is take it out and coat the while inside after you get the stiff factory grease out coat it with ALL TEMP WHITE LITHIUM, this will reduce the drag on the shifting and make it run much smoother, As for your lights, I'd check you rectifier is it putting out low 13's to mid 14's? Oh forgot when you get all your electrical connections ready to go on, put dielectric grease on everyone of them.

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If you took the shift motor apart and found chipped brushes you'll need to buy a new OEM motor. Don't waste money on a cheap china motor unless you can get them in a 12-pack for less than the cost of one OEM... :-)


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