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post #1 of 169 (permalink) Old 12-07-2018, 06:10 PM Thread Starter
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I was shocked this 5:30-+ morning...... A so called friend of mine pulled the ultimate ..... Road Shot a buck (nice 6 point) in my front lot, and had the nerve to park on my property and go tracking, i had to go move equipment , no time to confront him, he was gone when i got back, my friend who has hunting rights on my property, AND supply's SOME of my firewood is livid, as am I, some hunters around here think they own wherever they choose to hunt. NOPE... We're seeking charges soon.


Im thinking A good stay in bar hotel, or a good ol fashion a-- beating
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anddddddddddddd..its your fault !..lol. you alone let him on your property, no one to blame but YOU !.
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I feel your pain, the amount of folks here in PA that have NO problem trespassing and or using private ;land as if its there own is crazy, I used to catch a good 40+ hunters a yr trespassing and every Yr different one's, I have had them kill deer, and leave them steal things while trespassing, and couldn;t tell you how many would tell me they OWNED the land when they for sure didn't
and also how many got pissed off when I threw them off the land, the local police and game dept is useless, will not even show up if you call them and they all pass the buck saying NOT there job call the other agency
and THAT is why trespassing is so common here

worst yet, I have caught tons of FATHERS teaching there kids this is OK to do, and also why its so common here
and as a FACT I have even caught Fish wardens trespassing as well as local cops??


good luck nailing them with any fines you can is alll I can say
here in PA< it costs me more $$ than they will ever pay if I take things to court!
UNLESS< I can prove they were warned once before, as a second time trespassing is a felony here called, Criminal trespass!
its the only thing I have been able to scare anyone with about coming back and IF I catch them a second time I will follow thru and nail them, and with a felony charge on record, they loose there LEGAL rights to own a gun.
it keeps MOST from coming back, but every yr new jerks show up

one yr I managed to find 20 arrows out in one field ALL from illegal hunting!(out of season hunting too)

the one farm, managed, the last 10 yrs I ran it and the last LEGAL 25+ deer that were shot off it, ALL had 22 cal or 9 mm slugs in them, every deer taken had been shot at least once and was just wounded, used to kill a lot of deer with bullet holes thru there ears(spotlighting deer is legal and well, cheaters well, poach shooting at glowing eye's under a light and guess miss shots hit ears pretty often??)

I hate cheaters and trespassers, nail em all if you can folks and DON"T be one of them!
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My two friends had occasional permission to hunt on a rancherís placeóa heritage site. The owner told the guys they couldnít hunt one year because he wanted the herd to rebuild after a fever outbreak. One found out the other took a deer off the propertyóand the two didnít speak for 10 years.
When a friend of mine takes me to a favorite spot, I never go there by myself or with anyone else.
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Naw shade he shot from his pickup on a public road, THEN came up my drive , parked and went tracking, he never asked permission ... Sadly i didn't think to snap a pic of his truck....

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yep...share your frustration... we have always said 'no' to friends wanting to hunt our property...it's well posted..even though not required in our state...we have a dozen trail cams up...so we see them after the fact...on occassion we are able to get a DNR to look at the pics . we have even made large posters of some of the worst offenders and put those on trees..so the tresspassers know we've got em on camera and the signs tell them we'll prosecute.

hunters with deer fever are the worst...followed closely by ATV riders..and in our county we have an ordinance with $450 fines for the quad riders if caight tresspassing...some of the offenders think they know the law when it comes to utility easements..so we post details on our tresspass signage trying to help educate them.....some guys just don't care..unless they spot a trail cam and we see them promptly turning around.

I had to explain it to one guy and his teenage son walking up my drive one night after 9:30pm...well after dark allowance...they had made a lousy shot on a deer and then lost it..they were hunting on my property illegally to begin with..then out there in the night armed on my property...and of course I had to go find the animal next day..a wasted deer...told the guy he was teaching his kid all the wrong stuff..and that if I caught them on my property after dark, armed, again...I would treat them as an armed tresspassing threat..and yes.. I'm always armed...very frustrated.
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Naw shade he shot from his pickup on a public road, THEN came up my drive , parked and went tracking, he never asked permission ... Sadly i didn't think to snap a pic of his truck....

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why would he ask for permission ?, you said in your first post he had hunting rights to your property ?, either this is a state law thing ? ( like right-away ) or, you gave him permission to enter your land ?. sooooooo..which is it ?, if its the later ?, then again..its your fault he was on your land. until you tell him to stay off your property ?, or have the land posted no trespassing ?, he'll keep being on your land.

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Wilson . . . just for clarification
I've re-read your post a few times, and it seems that the 'so called friend' didn't have permission, but another friend that supplies firewood had your permission.
Just the way I read it . . . but don't really know ?

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Mello Yellow , Drive By-Media ! ----

We have a thing down here called Operation Game Thief , you call the toll free number and you don't have to give your name , and you report any wildlife violations , and they are busy , many articles I read about the " Bad Boys " start off with " With a tip to operation game thief ...." , I read a lot of the bad boy news to see if any one I know is in the news and how stupid people are , they really pile it on you when you go rouge on the wildlife , some of the charges seem like the same thing , just piling it on , stuff like shooting from a vehicle , shooting from a public road , shooting within 300 ft of a residence or business , shooting illegal hours , shooting with artificial lighting , failure to properly tag , failure to report kill , intentionally trying to hide illegal game or deceive a wildlife agent , and a whole bunch more charges that come up with , one that has become popular is contributing to the deliquesce of a minor , if you have a minor with you and do a violation they are adding it on , my buddy got it and 8 other counts with his 15 yr old son on a Federal Game Reserve with ducks involved and it wasn't pretty ----------- I have seen people get 15 or more charges for one incident , restitution is big now days , a deer is valved right over $1,600 and that amount is added to what ever fine and court cost you would get , every rabbit , fish , bird , duck has a restitution valve on it , one dude I read about recently got caught killing 3 deer @ $1,600+ each added to the other 9 charges he got and lost his licenses for 3 years and some times when violators act really stupid they will make the persons forfeit any equipment used in the violation like guns , trucks , atv's , boats , whatever and it goes up for auction ----the Wildlife has a lot of power down here , they don't need a search warrant if they have reasonable suspicion that you have illegal game on your property they will come in , they done it to my buddies mom , LOL , he shoot a illegal season doe and someone ratted him out , the wildlife went to his house knocked on the door ,he wasn't home , they told his mom the story and she let them come in cause they told her they were coming in anyways and take the deer from the freeze ----another thing I see a lot of these days are wildlife violators busted by the Wildlife Internet Division ( or what ever they call themselves ) , one dude just posted pics on the net of this big deer he shot on someone else property in another state and from camera pics they proved where the deer came as the horns were very unique from and he fessed up to it
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My bad for not being so clear. MM nailed it..... twinky and i have plenty posted no trespassing markers up plus four other gates locked and quiet a few trail cameras but posting NT signs at my driveway entrance ???? ....naw, I'm not going that route.....

I'll say this..... I've seen some really good friends come to hate one another over deer hunting around here.
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