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Old 12-12-2012, 02:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Proper tires for white "sugar" sand on river banks

Newby here to the forum. I have a 2004 Rancher AT 400 that I bought used two years ago. It came with TSL-ATV Super Swamper Vampire 25x9.5-12 FRONT TIRES, and Super Swamper Vampire 26x2.00-11 REAR TIRES installed. I live on the banks of the Ocklockonee River in Florida and I have a huge white "Powdered Sugar" sand bar along my river front. I purchased the Rancher for the specific purpose of being able to hitch up my John Boat Trailer and launch my boat right in front of my house when needed, instead of having to drive two miles to the nearest boat ramp. I also use the Rancher for yard work and other odd jobs around the property, as well as riding woods trails but not very often. The main purpose is use on the river bank. So far the Vampires have done a pretty good job dealing with the powdered river sand, but when the sand is really dry and deep (out away from the rivers edge) they tend to spin and dig in if I don't keep moving, especially when pulling the boat and trailer, which has those small trailer tires that act like plow disks. I've been tempted to put larger ATV type tires on my trailer just for that reason, but then it would not be safe for highway travel.
Anyway, my Vamps are starting to show signs of dryrot, and are loosing air pressure. I'm looking into getting new tires to fit the existing wheel rims, but may consider a different brand, mainly due to the cost of new Vamps, as well as other reviews I've been reading about other tires that do better in white powder sand, especially when pulling a heavy load such as a boat and trailer through the sand. Does anyone have suggestions as to the best tires up to my specific challenge? I'd be glad to hear anyone's experience in this type of situation with various tires. I've read that I shouldn't go over 27" with front or rear tires, but I'm afraid I'm stuck with what I have. Can't afford to buy new rims as well as tires. Thanks.

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Old 12-12-2012, 04:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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welcome to da forum from the crossroads of texas. i dont deal with much sand but im sure that the bighorns would do great. also look into the gbc gators and Spartacus.
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I second the Bighorns. My Vamps tend to dig down and spin when I move my 20' boat around the yard. My stock tires did not do that. Your 11" wheels really limit you. You might try finding a set of 12" rear wheels.
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May be my son wrote the specs for the tires down backwards. Guess I should have checked. The rear tires are much larger than the front.
I've also read good things about mudlites? Or something lutes anyway. They are said to do well in sand.
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Any type of mud tire is going to dig down on ya in that type of situation unfortunately, be it swamp lites, mud lites, tsls, zillas, executioners, bear claws, etc. You best bet is something with a fairly non-aggressive tread, or something that is going to paddle and stay on top. You need flotation, so stock tires with a soft side wall that will allow you to let out some air and get a wider foot print would actually be ideal. Another tire I've ran in the sand that preforms decent on the trails are "wooly boogers". Have a set of 25-13-12's in my garage waiting to be used on something... Awesome snow tires for a sport quad btw...
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The mudlites are not a good choice if you are going to be riding in alot of sand, they will do the same thing that your vamps do. And welcome from the Volunteer state.
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Stock balloony tires with the air pressure dropped to about 3psi
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I my opinion stock bald tires do a great job in the sand.
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Welcome to da forums...:icon_ devil Stock tires with 1 lb of air will work best unless you're willing to fork out for paddle type tires which require wheel speed to propel an atv along decently... You can look for a used set of stock take off on Craigslist,and prolly get a set half wore out on oem Honda sra 12" wheels for 100-150 bux max which you can air down to 1-1.5 psi for maximum flotation in sand,but I wouldn't go up any larger than a 25-26" in tire sizes due to the low power of the 400at..Vamps are a heavy power robbing tire btw...Adding wider wheels,wider tires,and airing them down to low pressures, to the trailer will help it to float across the sand much better,and ease the pressure off the atv making its job much simpler,simply air them back up for road trips....
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