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Old 09-19-2010, 06:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Why is my starter turning backwards

Well the title pretty much says it all. I have a 98 300ex and the starter is turning backwards. It is not possible to hook it up backwards cause there is only one wire going to it. I tried to unhook it and just run a wire from the battery straight to the starter and it turns backwards. I just got it could it be that someone put the wrong starter on it?
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Well the title pretty much says it all. I have a 98 300ex and the starter is turning backwards. It is not possible to hook it up backwards cause there is only one wire going to it. I tried to unhook it and just run a wire from the battery straight to the starter and it turns backwards. I just got it could it be that someone put the wrong starter on it?
I've heard of this happening a few times. One person said it happened after they put a timing chain in and put the ATV back together. They didn't figure out the problem, but they replaced the starter with a new one. They said the starter hadn't been messed with, so I don't have a clue what happened there. Another person had just rebuilt the starter and said they ended up pulling the starter back apart and redid it and it starting turning in the right direction.
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BTW, how did you determine that the starter was turning backwards?
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I took the starter drive cover off and was messing around cause it wouldnt turn over. I held the gears in with my hand and hit the starter button and noticed that it was trying to turn the engine counter-clockwise and naturally the starter drive wouldnt engage the flywheel. so it just spins freely
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I took the starter drive cover off and was messing around cause it wouldnt turn over. I held the gears in with my hand and hit the starter button and noticed that it was trying to turn the engine counter-clockwise and naturally the starter drive wouldnt engage the flywheel. so it just spins freely
The reason I asked is because if the starter clutch (one-way bearing) is bad, the starter will just spin and not turn the engine over. It will turn the gear on the back of the flywheel, but it won't turn the flywheel.
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yeah thats what I thought was going on at first. But if you turn the gears the right direction everything works fine the starter is just running backwards. Only thing I can figure is that when i looked at it to buy it the guy used a jump box to turn it over and he hooked it directly to the starter. I bet he hooked it up backwards and it reversed the polarity of the starter.
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Only thing I can figure is that when i looked at it to buy it the guy used a jump box to turn it over and he hooked it directly to the starter. I bet he hooked it up backwards and it reversed the polarity of the starter.
I don't really understand how it would reverse the polarity, but I have heard about that happening, so maybe that is the problem.
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yes..you can hook up the starter backwards..been there..done that !..if you put the neg on the starter pos post..and pos on the neg to the battery..it will make the starter turn backwards..make sure your lead that hooks up to your battery is on the pos side of the relay...and the other lead goes to the pos side on the battery..and your neg is on the frame/ground..and like helmut said..it can be that your one-way starter bearing behind the flywheel is bad..i kinda doubt it though..but...it does happen..first rule out which way your starter is turning by making sure your battery leads are all hooked up right..then if all thats good..you either got the wrong starter..or your one-way bearing is bad behind the flywheel.
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yes..you can hook up the starter backwards..been there..done that !..if you put the neg on the starter pos post..and pos on the neg to the battery..it will make the starter turn backwards..make sure your lead that hooks up to your battery is on the pos side of the relay...and the other lead goes to the pos side on the battery..and your neg is on the frame/ground..and like helmut said..it can be that your one-way starter bearing behind the flywheel is bad..i kinda doubt it though..but...it does happen..first rule out which way your starter is turning by making sure your battery leads are all hooked up right..then if all thats good..you either got the wrong starter..or your one-way bearing is bad behind the flywheel.
I think he means someone hooked it up backwards and it permanently reversed the polarity on the starter, even when it's hooked up right now. I don't understand how that could happen and I've never seen it happen, but I have heard of it a few times before. I've even tried to replicate the problem with an extra starter that I had. When reversing the cables, it would run backwards, but when I changed them back the right way, it would run in the correct direction. I couldn't replicate the problem.
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yes..you can hook up the starter backwards..been there..done that !..if you put the neg on the starter pos post..and pos on the neg to the battery..it will make the starter turn backwards..make sure your lead that hooks up to your battery is on the pos side of the relay...and the other lead goes to the pos side on the battery..and your neg is on the frame/ground..and like helmut said..it can be that your one-way starter bearing behind the flywheel is bad..i kinda doubt it though..but...it does happen..first rule out which way your starter is turning by making sure your battery leads are all hooked up right..then if all thats good..you either got the wrong starter..or your one-way bearing is bad behind the flywheel.
I think he means someone hooked it up backwards and it permanently reversed the polarity on the starter, even when it's hooked up right now. I don't understand how that could happen and I've never seen it happen, but I have heard of it a few times before. I've even tried to replicate the problem with an extra starter that I had. When reversing the cables, it would run backwards, but when I changed them back the right way, it would run in the correct direction. I couldn't replicate the problem.
sounds like someone had the battery leads hooked up wrong then..this is the only thing that will make the starter turn backwards. as for making it permanently making the starter turn backwards after this is done..no..can't happen..at least i've never seen it done.
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