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post #21 of 39 (permalink) Old 02-16-2016, 05:53 PM
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420 Electric Shift Problem Code List - Honda Foreman Forums : Rubicon, Rincon, Rancher and Recon Forum

This is a link to the list of error codes. Mine is "Shift Control Motor Drive Circuit"

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Ok took the cover off which was another 3 some bolts. THEN I found the grease :O


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Hi: You don't take the shift motor apart --- you remove the cover where the shift motor went into and clean out the old grease --- put white lithium grease on them gears --- also if you removed the spindle gear it has to aligned with the shift shaft.
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So after what seemed a lifetime, I got my new shift motor. $80 lesson learned. I'm trying to upload a photo of it, but iPhone won't cooperate. Must be the Feds. Anywho, there was a very, very small amount of grease on the grease. I went ahead and loaded the lithium grease in there like it was my job. Rode it around a little, g2g now. Thanks guys. Subject for a new post, oil smelled funny and was a little golden when I just changed it....hmmmm. Should be better now!
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Glad it worked out for ya.

I also did this today, the grease was hard and very sticky. I cleaned it all out and applied the new lithium grease. Wow, night and day difference in shifting.

Thank you Kentco!
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UPDATE:

The Rancher shifts much much smoother and gets into the next gear much faster than it did before. This weekend was the first time I had really ridden it "hard" (maybe 20 miles) and tested out the grease fix. I had it happen to me twice where the display went "-" in the middle of a gear change. It's easy enough to get it back into N and i think the grease has something to do with that, but damn you pay so much money for a four wheeler and this happens? I dealt with it and probably will continue to.

Maybe a bad idea, but we traded my wife's Recon in on a new Rancher with ESP and solid rear, so basically mine without the IRS. It was the first weekend she had ridden it really at all; it only had 3 hours on it when we showed up to my buddy's house. I was thinking that it was a fluke, mine was just a bad egg. Well, her Rancher read "-" at one point too. BUT, this was different, it was an error code. ---- ---- - -. 22. Something to do with the Shift Angle Sensor I suspect and have heard about problems with these as well. Turned it off, put it in N like I have to do with mine, restarted it, and never had another problem with it. Come on HONDA!

Should've stuck with the foot shift.

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Avery: There is always a bright side to every experience. In this case:
1. It was a major learning experience for you
2. You saved a GREAT deal of money over that which a dealer would have charged for the same thing.
3. You are shifting smoother now!

My compliments to you for hanging in there, for not giving up, and especially for being SO humble and admitting your mistakes to the thousands of people who look at the forum. YOU are the kind of person I would want to help repair MY atv!


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Avery: There is always a bright side to every experience. In this case:
1. It was a major learning experience for you
2. You saved a GREAT deal of money over that which a dealer would have charged for the same thing.
3. You are shifting smoother now!

My compliments to you for hanging in there, for not giving up, and especially for being SO humble and admitting your mistakes to the thousands of people who look at the forum. YOU are the kind of person I would want to help repair MY atv!
You are absolutely right. I have learned a lot and saved some money along the way. I appreciate the kind words and encouragement. You are the most helpful person I've come across on any one of the forums I belong to: F150forum, OilBurners, FSB, and of course this one.

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I've got access to the repair manual now thanks to a fellow street biker, so i am going to remove these gears completely & see what the score is when i do the next oil change


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I've got access to the repair manual now thanks to a fellow street biker, so i am going to remove these gears completely & see what the score is when i do the next oil change
I'll definitely be paying attention when the time comes.

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