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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 01-11-2017, 10:40 AM Thread Starter
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400 EX Axle Nut Will NOT Slide over Axle!

Hello, I just replaced carrier bearings on my 2003 and now I can't get the (new) axle nut over the axle far enough to install the clip. I had difficulty getting the old one off but didn't think much of it. So I decided to get a whole new nut, locking nut, and sleeve since the old one was rough.
The sleeve and locking nut slide over no problem but the large nut just won't go.

Do I have a bent axle? There was no wobbling or shaking prior to disassembly and I can't see any damage??
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You have the nut tightened down on the treaded sleeve all the way right?

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No, didn't seem like it would all the way before hand. Does the nut have to be completely threaded onto the sleeve and then slid over the axle as a unit?
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Yes it does. Then you put the clip in place and loosen the nut against the clip to push the threaded sleeve into the bearing carrier. Then you tighten the lock nut against the big nut. Put some blue locktite on the locknut to keep it in place or it will loosen on you.

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No luck, either something is messed up or I am simply missing something.See this video, hope it works.

https://www.dropbox.com/home?preview..._074917509.mp4
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Maybe this will work
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The video dosnt work. Im wondering if you got the brake rotor and hub on the axle all the way. There should be splines coming out the end of the hub about half an inch to an inch. The sleeve is splined on the inside to fit tight on the axle. The nut should thread on that sleeves outer threads quite a long distance. The lock nut should be able to thread the whole distance of the sleeve no problem. Take a picture of what you have going on. When all this fits like it is supposed to there is a circular metal clip down inside a groove in the axle and you should be able to slide the whole assembly passed that groove and slide the circular clip down the axle and into that groove. Then you loosen(turn counter clock wise) the outer nut threaded on the sleeve until it hits that clip and stops. This forces the threaded sleeve back into the brake hub and pushes all the bearings and hubs togeather tight. Then once you have that cranked tight you tighten the locknut again by loosening it(turning counter clockwise) it will wedge against the outer nut and lock in place.

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I'm attaching two pics. I believe everything is alright this thing just refuses to go on. One pic is to show how everything is set up one pic shows the nut as far as it will go over towards the brake disc. The clip is not on the axle
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Hard to tell but it looks like your not getting the inner splines on that sleeve to slide on the splines on the axle? Sometime you have to tap it on with a block of wood and a hammer to get them started. The sleeve you have has splines on the inside right?

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UNI filter + ehs powerlid
45 pilot, 1 3/4 turns, middle clip, 190 main
razr XC tires
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Yes this inner sleeve has splines. The problem is I can't get the sleeve over far enough to even meet the splines on the axle. If I take the big nut off the sleeve the sleeve will slide right over all the way onto the splines near the brake disc. That is the problem I am having and the reason for this post.
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