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Old 08-26-2012, 07:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Solved!! - SuperWinch Terra 35 Installation Problem

Attempted to install the Terra 35 on my 2012 Rancher ES 2x4 today. I know many have installed the Terra 25, but I went with the 35 with SR, since it was cheaper than the 25 on Amazon...Seemed like a logical choice. The physical specs are the same except the 35 is .2 inches longer.

I thought it would simplify the installation if I purchased the Superwinch mount as well. The mount came with SAE hardware, and the winch came with Metric hardware...<sigh>

If I use the mount-supplied spacers between the mounting plate and the winch, there isn't enough clearance for the winch to line up with the mounting holes. The top of the winch drum hits the tops of the bumper.

And you can't mount the winch without the spacer, because there are two bolts connecting the plate to the bumper through a spacer, that won't allow the winch to sit flush with the plate.

If everything I just said makes no sense, then I apologize...I was hoping to appeal to the members who have installed the Terra series of winch, and maybe they could help. Otherwise, if I read this, I wouldn't have a clue either. I guess I should have scanned in a copy of the plate instructions.

I plan on contacting the plate manufacturer tomorrow, and see what they suggest. Did anyone else have a problem like this installing their SuperWinch Terra?

Thanks!
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Old 08-26-2012, 07:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I didn't have any problems other than some damaged nuts. I did not use the factory plate, i used a fuse powersports mounting plate, it fit right in with no problems. I did switch out the stock mounting bolts for sae bolts due to damaged nuts. That was the only problem i can think of. If you have any questions, ask kentco or myself, were both superwinch guys loll. Also, i have a Terra 25 instead of 35.
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Old 08-30-2012, 10:07 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Winch Mounting success!

To make this winch and plate work together on your 2012 Rancher, you need to buy 4 longer Winch mounting Bolts. You need to buy M8-1.25 x 30 Metric Bolts. As I said before, the bolts that come with the winch are too short, and metric thread. The winch bolts coming with the mounting plate, are SAE. The winch has captive metric nuts that are staked in the winch body. So it's easier to get the new metric bolts.

The mounting plate kit has two rectangle spacers that install between the winch and the mounting plate. If you try to install these spacers, then there's not enough clearance between the winch end drum, and the upper bumper mounting arm on the left side. Instead, I was able to use a single flat washer between the winch and mounting plate, and using the longer bolts, mount the winch to the bumper.

By the way, to make this install easier, go ahead and remove the bumper and mount the plate and winch to the bumper, then reinstall the bumper. A slight amount of plastic trimming is needed on the front grill on one side, to clear the winch freewheel knob.

I was going to upload the installation PDF file to reference the process, but the file was too big.

Now to move on to the Winch electrical installation, and finish this project.
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CyberianHusky, Glad you got it figured out - and that longer bolts were all you needed. Wow, you got a Terra35 for less than the cost of a Terra 25! That's incredible! Way to go. You'll love the winch.
By the way, did you call Superwinch, or did you just figure out the longer bolts yourself? I have found Superwinch to be extremely helpful whenever I called them.

You're also right about removing the bumper and front end stuff - no matter what type of winch a person installs. It makes the whole thing easier. And, you are also right about trimming a little bit of the black plastic; depending on the size of winch you select (of any brand).

By the way, did you get a Terra 35 with wire rope, or with synthetic rope?

Sounds like you're on the right track and MANY of us would love to have YOUR Terra35!....especially for the price you paid!
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X2, I paid 238 for a 25 w/steel wire at Bass pro.
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I didn't have any problems other than some damaged nuts.

Bobs, you're not supposed to drop the winch while sitting under the bike. LOL
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^^^^^ hahaha that's funny. I think someone tried to install it before and stripped the threads. Just popped the rolls pins out and took nuts out and installed sae ones.
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By the way, did you get a Terra 35 with wire rope, or with synthetic rope?

Sounds like you're on the right track and MANY of us would love to have YOUR Terra35!....especially for the price you paid!
I got the synthetic rope...and cheaper than the 25 with rope...go figure!

By the way Kentco, just noticed Grand Lake Colorado! I love that place!!! "Snowmobile Capital of the World" so they say! I work for a company that used to put me there several times a year. In my early years, I would go skiing at various places, but later decided to try Snowmobiling...much better fit for me! The last time I was there, I traveled over 50 miles in about 2.5 hours. Had a great time! Each time I came up there, it was a road trip from Boulder. I'd like to come back and stay in Grand Lake, and I think that would be even better!
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Cyberian, Yes, Grand Lake is the snowmobile capitol of Colorado (I'm not sure about the world!). However, last winter, there was no snowmobiling because there was NO SNOW!
In the Grand Lake area, we have over 300 miles of trails. In the winter, the trails are used by snowmobiles, whereas in the summer, they are used by ATV's! I have personally adopted 9 of the major trails and I work with the Forest Service to help maintain the trails. It is very rewarding; both for me and for the public (it really helps the Forest Service as well as I am able to report any major problems to them, so that they can fix the problems). There are aggrevations as well... such as when people with side by sides, or jeeps tear down or remove gates that are designed to only let 50" ATVs or dirt bikes though, or when people with 4WD ATV's tear the trails up by riding in 2WD. But, for the most part, people take pretty good care of the trails.
If you are ever in Colorado, send me a PM and look me up.
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