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Old 01-27-2012, 12:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Honda TRX420FA/FPA Transmission Functionality?

Hello to all out there, I have been searching this forum for the past couple weeks, and could not find exactly what I was looking for. I have a simple (kinda) question for all those out there who have a Rancher with the Dual Clutch Hondamatic, not the Hydromechanical Hondamatic. How does the Dual Clutch one function? Is it smooth? Durable? I am seriously considering a new one with the power steering, if not, an 04-07 TRX400FGA (the old AT with the GPS). I already own a '01 TRX350FE wich has been bullet proof, with the exception of my complete lack of maintenance to it which has caused the rear axle splines to grenade. I know, my fault. I'm usually better than that. Anyway, I've ridden a new A/T at the dealer in the cold, and the bike did not want to shift. Salesman said it was due to the fact that it wasn't broken in yet, and that all the fluid in the transmission was cold, causing the clutches to stick. I can believe that, I only rode it for about 27 seconds. How are they holding up in the real world? Thanks in advance!
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Old 01-27-2012, 01:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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My 2012 is solid as a rock. I do only have 100 miles on it so far, but I run it very hard. No issues at all.
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Old 01-27-2012, 02:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thx monumaker, how does she run when it's cold out or when the transmission isn't warm yet? I had the one at the dealer in full auto, and it took a good couple seconds to shift, and when it did, it was very clunky.
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Old 01-27-2012, 02:28 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I dont have an At but I do know for the first 100 miles or so my es was a little slow on shifting when it was warming up. Since I have put 600 miles on the quad it hasn't given me any trouble since.
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I have a 2011 at and have the same problem when it cold but once it gets warmed up it shifts really smoth sometimes I can't even fill it shift
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Riccnic: I (well, I got one for my wife) have a 2011 Rancher AT with Power Steering. It shifts extremely smoothly and nicely. As one other person noted, give it a couple of minutes to warm up and it will be good to go.
One reason that I won't even look at (or own) a belt driven machine is because they (the belt drive machines) grab suddenly when then start off from a stop. If you are trying to negotiate a difficult trail or rocks, that sudden 'grab' from a belt is really annoying. There is nothing better in the ATV market (as far as I'm concerned) than the Honda transmission. And, the best of their transmissions is in the Honda Rancher! I personally ride a Honda Rincon, but I must say that the transmission in the Rancher is superior to the one in my Rincon.
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One reason that I won't even look at (or own) a belt driven machine is because they (the belt drive machines) grab suddenly when then start off from a stop. If you are trying to negotiate a difficult trail or rocks, that sudden 'grab' from a belt is really annoying.
Just so you know, the Yamaha belt systems aren't like that. On a Yamaha, you can take off as slow as you want to and it won't grab like that because the belt doesn't slip when taking off. A lot of other brand ATVs use a belt system where the belt slips at idle and then when you take off, the front sheave closes and tightens on the belt and this is what makes it grab suddenly and it also causes the belt to wear quickly. The front sheave on a Yamaha always grips the belt tightly and it doesn't slip at idle because Yamahas have a centrifugal clutch behind the front sheave, so at idle, the front sheave isn't even turning and the belt can't slip. So, that means you can take off at low RPM and as slow as you want to and it doesn't grab. Also, you don't have to adjust the belt like you do on some of the other models and the belts usually last for years. I'm not trying to push Yamahas on anybody, I'm just pointing out the difference. If I'm not mistaken, Suzuki has a similar setup on the newer models, as well.

Watch the two videos below and you can see what I'm talking about. Notice the belt isn't turning at idle on the Yamaha, but on the Polaris, it is turning at idle and it has to catch and grab to take off. Then, watch the video of the Polaris and you will see what I'm talking about.



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Helmut, That is great to know. I have a friend who is looking at buying a new Grizzly and I'll definately pass your information on to him. The Yamaha belt drive definately sounds superior to the rest.
Thanks for letting me know!
G'day Sir!
Helmut: Perfect Videos as well. Boy, what a difference. The Polaris is nothing different than a snowmobile clutch. The Yamaha clutch is impressive!
Thanks again!
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You're welcome. Yeah, in my opinion, the Yamaha has the best belt system on the market.
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Good to know! I'll definately pass that on to my Yamaha buddy!
Thank you Sir!
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