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Old 06-25-2011, 06:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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IRS vs SRA opinions

Hey guys, I have a rancher 420 SRA and was wondering what the advantages/disadvantages there are between the two. I went for a ride on an IRS bike and loved the ride but if that's the only advantage and I'd be giving up something I don't think I'd want to trade up.
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Old 06-25-2011, 08:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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IRS quads have their advantages in the smooth ride regard in uneven terrain, and some extra ground clearance. The extra clearance really isn't as much as you would think though over your SRA machine. When an IRS equipped machines rear suspension is compressed it loses ground clearance, so that magic 10" measurement they list on their specifications list disappears some the minute you sit on the quad. Whereas, an SRA quads ground clearance is always the same,(unless you have a flat tire)
You have oversize tires on your atv by your signature, and that gives you in the 8.5" of ground clearance area, which IMO probably isn't much different than a loaded IRS machine. You also have much better towing ability than an IRS machine being a solid swing arm design, and better side hilling stability as well as being easier to get the rear end sideways without the I'm gonna high side feeling, and less parts to break and maintain. That being said the IRS quads are a nice smooth ride, and at my age and back condition I wouldn't mind one for those reason's. The power steering option would get my vote before the IRS though, as long as my SRA equipped machine had quality reservoir equipped adjustable shocks.
I've read about, but never ridden one before, that the Rincon IRS is the most stable atv in the business, although I'm not sure how they stack up against that simpler trailing arm IRS design by Bombardier, or Can am as they are now known.
I would save my money towards other good upgrades to your current ride if it were me. Good aftermarket shocks would be at the top of the list to give you a top notch ride,,you would be amazed at what some quality suspension parts can do to your ride. That, and until the IRS equipped 420 comes out with a manual shift version, or at least a ES edition to go along with the AT version I wouldn't buy one personally.
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also at higher speeds, the sra is more stable. ive heard from someone else here that theyre irs machine has a fair amount of body roll when turning at higher speeds. and agareed you cant tow as much safely on an irs as you can with an sra. and i agree with stu, until it has a manual tranny w/foot shift, i wont even look at the rancher irs version.
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I don't think the IRS on the Rancher is even worth it. To me, it still feels like I'm riding an SRA because the rear suspension is very stiff. There is an enormous difference between my Rincons IRS and that of a Rancher AT. It may have a couple inches of more ground clearence, but it seems like it needs better shocks. The only thing I like is that the rear brakes on the AT are disc instead of drum. They work much better.
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Ok thanks for the input. I was trying to weight all the pros and cons but it doesn't sound like there is enough pros to warrant getting a new machine just for the IRS and EPS.
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Actually you get no more ground clearance than the belly skip plates lowest point on any machine,but you do get the chunk,brakes,etc up higher gaining clearance there,but you should get a better ride with the exception of when sidehilling as most all irs rear shocks are adjustable while a lot of sra rear shocks aren't...I'd be less inclined to hang an irs out powersliding,or spinning doughnuts due to the nature of the irs wanting to lift on the rear towards the outside of the slide,or doughnut which can lead to high siding easier than an sra ,but that shouldn't be an issue after a certain amount of riding time,and a short learning curve after you flip it once,or twice you should have the flipping part down pat,errr the proper riding position for such maneuvers down pat I meant.....
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SRA is my preference. Although i would have liked that Honda would have made an SRA like on the Kawasaki Prairie 360. With the sealed oil bathed brake system in with the differential. No bulky rear drum brake as with the rancher.

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I wish the drum was over inside the rear wheel on the rancher like the old foremans etc so its out of the way a bit.
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I wish the drum was over inside the rear wheel on the rancher like the old foremans etc so its out of the way a bit.
Yeah, I don't understand that either. I don't know why they didn't stick to the full length axle tube like on the Foreman and 350 Rancher. I guess they were trying to build it as light as possible.
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I wish the drum was over inside the rear wheel on the rancher like the old foremans etc so its out of the way a bit.
Yeah, I don't understand that either. I don't know why they didn't stick to the full length axle tube like on the Foreman and 350 Rancher. I guess they were trying to build it as light as possible.
Prolly a cost cutting solution for Honda as there's less seals(2 inner seals vs 2 inner,and 2 outer seals on the brake drum housing),less axle bearings,2 less axle tubes to source as well as the axle design itself is far simpler to manufacture,and I am sure there's a cost savings with the shocks,and their mountings...The cheaper they can build them,the larger their profit margin becomes,plus the better the selling price can be by keeping it low...
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