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Old 09-13-2010, 09:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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88 fourtrax 300. how much oil does it hold anyways????


i had noticed a little metal on metal sound while riding, and when going up hill thru a trail getting on it, it would cut out and lose power. and then it finally lost all the power and was ideling kinda high but when i hit the throttle it would die out and kinda just idle with short revs.

i though it was carb related, got to spraying carb cleaner around, after a few mins of sitting it went back to normal. okay, went up that same hill, happend again. so i went to check the oil, barely hitting the dip stick (doh) so i put some more in, problem went away immediately, no more cutting out on the hill.

i just found it kinda cool that it wont let me just blow the motor with running it dry, the oil light did not come on tho.


so how much is it supposed to have in it anyways??? i put 1.5 quarts in at first (thought thats what it held) added another half and its half way on the dip stick.
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i just found it kinda cool that it wont let me just blow the motor with running it dry, the oil light did not come on tho.
It will, you just got lucky. The oil light only comes on when the oil temperature is high and it won't work at all if there's no oil touching the thermo sensor.

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so how much is it supposed to have in it anyways??? i put 1.5 quarts in at first (thought thats what it held) added another half and its half way on the dip stick.
If it's completely dry, it will hold 2.6 quarts.
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88 fourtrax 300. how much oil does it hold anyways????


i had noticed a little metal on metal sound while riding, and when going up hill thru a trail getting on it, it would cut out and lose power. and then it finally lost all the power and was ideling kinda high but when i hit the throttle it would die out and kinda just idle with short revs.

i though it was carb related, got to spraying carb cleaner around, after a few mins of sitting it went back to normal. okay, went up that same hill, happend again. so i went to check the oil, barely hitting the dip stick (doh) so i put some more in, problem went away immediately, no more cutting out on the hill.

i just found it kinda cool that it wont let me just blow the motor with running it dry, the oil light did not come on tho.


so how much is it supposed to have in it anyways??? i put 1.5 quarts in at first (thought thats what it held) added another half and its half way on the dip stick.
they hold close to 2 quarts..as for your sound you hear...sounds like your oil pump is about to go on a coffee break !..you need to pull your valve caps off..and inspect the cam and valve area..make sure your getting oil up to them...you can start the motor with the caps off..and watch to see if your getting oil to the cam and valves ?..if not..your oil pump is either blocked..or dieing.
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DOHH haha. well i got 2 quarts in it. it did not like that 1.5
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it quited down some when i got some more oil in it. ill give it a check.
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you need to pull your valve caps off..and inspect the cam and valve area..make sure your getting oil up to them...you can start the motor with the caps off..and watch to see if your getting oil to the cam and valves ?
An easier way to see if you're getting oil to the top of the head is to just loosen the bolt that holds the external oil line to the valve cover and crank the engine over. If it's pumping oil should come out around the bolt. Don't forget to turn the kill switch to the "off" position, you don't want the engine to start while you're checking it.
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you need to pull your valve caps off..and inspect the cam and valve area..make sure your getting oil up to them...you can start the motor with the caps off..and watch to see if your getting oil to the cam and valves ?
An easier way to see if you're getting oil to the top of the head is to just loosen the bolt that holds the external oil line to the valve cover and crank the engine over. If it's pumping oil should come out around the bolt. Don't forget to turn the kill switch to the "off" position, you don't want the engine to start while you're checking it.
yeah..i thought of that oil line..but..i wanted him to check the valve and cam to make sure he didnt do any damage already..but.yes..you can take the oil line off the top side of it.
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it might have been the float sticking. it pours gas out when im sitting on a hill some times.
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ha, now other issuies.....busted the rear end. i think. pulled it off, oil looked to to speckled with metal flakes, inside the drive shaft (spline area i guess???) there was a bunch of pieces of metal. its getting dark so i could not see but it feel like most of the main gear splines were intact from feel. the splines on the drive shaft and the rear look okay, well there all there. the rear has some play/slop to it tho, and with it drained and off the 4wheeler it catches some times when i roll it and binds.


is it going to need a complete rebuild??? and well id rather just try and find the foreman 350 ????? rear end with the solid axle tube and brake by the wheel.

ahhhh. what do you guys think is wrong with it???
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what do you guys think is wrong with it???
Same thing that usually happens to the Fourtrax 300 rear end, the axle bearings went out and let the axle move and probably damaged the gears. If it didn't tear the gears up too bad or damage the end of the pinion shaft, you can just replace the two diff bearings and the both pinion bearings and the bearing in the backing plate.

Grab the end of the pinion shaft, where the driveshaft splines on, and see if you can wiggle it side to side. If it wiggles much, the other end of the pinion shaft, down in the diff where the needle bearing is, is probably damaged too much and the pinion shaft and ring gear will need to be replaced along with all the bearings and seals:$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
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