That price is retail, so I'd definiately not pay more than $2500. The transmission is all just personal preference. Some people hate the ES but I don't have issues with mine and I personally think most of it is just having a bad rep because people hear something and latch onto it and drill it into the ground without really knowing one way or the other.
I'm not saying there aren't problems with the ES or the AT for that matter, I just think a lot of it is hype. People complain about things on forums or in life when they actually have issues, not when they are out riding and not having problems.
Those without problems aren't coming here to talk about it.
The problems in America arenít from liberals or conservatives, democrats or republicans.
The problems are bigots, hate mongers, fear peddlers and opportunists. History has shown that those people are far more dangerous than a few guys who talk differently or wear funny hats.
Last edited by Pain; 08-09-2010 at 03:28 PM.