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Old 01-04-2017, 02:40 PM   #21 (permalink)
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If you really want what's left of this ATV perhaps load it up and take it home but leave a sign with contact details and saying you've taken it for safe keeping ? When you get it back notify authorities you have it safe and will dispose of it after 3 months if no claim.
And of course, if there happened to be no number on it then a claim to rights could be difficult.
Would this work over there ? Over here it wouldn't give you rights to it but you wouldn't get fined or jailed if you did it.
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Old 01-04-2017, 06:47 PM   #22 (permalink)
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If you really want what's left of this ATV perhaps load it up and take it home but leave a sign with contact details and saying you've taken it for safe keeping ? When you get it back notify authorities you have it safe and will dispose of it after 3 months if no claim.
And of course, if there happened to be no number on it then a claim to rights could be difficult.
Would this work over there ? Over here it wouldn't give you rights to it but you wouldn't get fined or jailed if you did it.
every atv has a vin number, if the vin number is gone ?, as in..grinded off ?, cut out ?, then this is a red flag for sure !. if some one did what your saying here ?, and was pulled over while taking it home ?, the police run the vin number, and it comes back stolen ?, then now your facing theft of property !!.
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That's the difference in countries then. here to be classed as theft (technically) you have to be found guilty of "permanently depriving the rightful owner of the item". So by leaving contact details and informing authorities they couldn't say you tried to permanently deprive the rightful owner of it, you left details so the owner could contact you.

Unfortunately the "travelling community" over here know this part of the law and if caught thieving just tell the police "I was only borrowing it and was taking it back later"

It's not really worth the hassle for a few atv parts is it, simpler to buy what you need and stay out of hassle.
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Rod ' , where I am there is "theft" and then there is " possession of stolen property "
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Doesn't seem like our work is taking us back down that way regardless, it's really out of the way but if I end up back down there I'll look for a vin
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Rod ' , where I am there is "theft" and then there is " possession of stolen property "
There is also that here, but I'm not sure they would prosecute for it here as it would have to be proved you knew it was stolen and not just abandoned.

I'm certainly no lawyer though, and the chances of finding an unguarded atv over here are slim to nil so really in my case it's all hypothetical, it just wouldn't happen.

Still be good to have a pile of free parts though.
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Doesn't seem like our work is taking us back down that way regardless, it's really out of the way but if I end up back down there I'll look for a vin
Great! If you happen back there, a vin AND some pictures, I'd like to know more history of this topic
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"Intent" has some major part of the definition of your guilt and your intent has already been determined by your self-admission in your first post: you know the quad is not yours. The way I see it, your only choice is to call some authority and report the lost vehicle. If you are back there, put a plastic bag over the air intake hole to keep mice from moving in. If the authorities don't move the thing in say, 6 months, you might make a case that it is abandoned, and that your new intent is to strip an abandoned vehicle, as long as you can keep some proof of having reported it originally.
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"Intent" has some major part of the definition of your guilt and your intent has already been determined by your self-admission in your first post: you know the quad is not yours. The way I see it, your only choice is to call some authority and report the lost vehicle. If you are back there, put a plastic bag over the air intake hole to keep mice from moving in. If the authorities don't move the thing in say, 6 months, you might make a case that it is abandoned, and that your new intent is to strip an abandoned vehicle, as long as you can keep some proof of having reported it originally.
pretty much nailed it ^^^^^ !.
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